The Great Satanic Trinitarian Deception
“Before Abraham was, I am…”
When Christ made his declaration, “Before Abraham was, I am,” NO ONE was asking him “where he came from.”
In John chapter 8, Christ had promised eternal life to all who would “keep his words” and this angered the Jews because Abraham and all the other prophets were DEAD and it seemed to them that Christ, therefore, was claiming to be greater than Abraham and all the prophets.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? -John 8:51-53
Notice the Jews did not ask him “where he came from” but “whom makest thou thyself?” In other words, “Who do you think you are?” Christ denied making himself anyone or anything, which he could not TRUTHFULLY have done if he was in fact the CREATOR, GOD, and he had made HIMSELF “the SON OF GOD,” and therefore “GOD THE SON.”
Christians use “Before Abraham was, I am,” but don’t realize Jesus had for more to say to them than “before Abraham was, I am.”
Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. –John 8:54-56
This is the answer to the question of the Jews, “whom makest thou thyself?” Christ made it clear that he does not honor himself. IF he is actually GOD, clothed in the flesh, then indeed, he was a liar and he was HONORING HIMSELF, being God himself, and giving honor to his FLESHLY self, which he MADE himself!
This is the truth that the Trinitarians everywhere conveniently ignore. If Christ was GOD HIMSELF, come down to earth in FLESHLY FORM, then when Christ spoke of God as “him” and as someone else that he “KNOWS,” Christ was simply lying!
Christ told the Jews that he did not “honor himself” (yet God honored Christ all the time). Either Christ is not God, or Christ was LYING in John 8 when he said he does not honor himself! And Christ told the Jews that he “knows” the one they call their God. (John 8:54-55)
Now, if Christ IS their God, then he’s being very DECEPTIVE by saying he “knows” their God and keeps HIS words.
Either Christ is NOT the God of the Jews (for he says that he only “knows” him) OR Christ is the God of the Jews come in FLESHLY FORM and he is simply lying and being deceptive, OR Christ did not KNOW he was in fact God of the Jews come to earth (which of course begs the question how does an all knowing God not KNOW who he is?)
“Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.” -John 8:56
As the Jews sought to twist the words of Jesus, the Trinitarians do as well. Here Christ did NOT say he SAW Abraham, he simply said that Abraham “saw his day.” Yet the Jews TWISTED the words of Jesus to say that he had seen Abraham and therefore knew Abraham. (Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? John 8:57)
The apostles explain how Abraham had seen Christ’s day ‘afar off’.
These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having SEEN THEM AFAR OFF, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. – Heb. 11:13
Abraham had seen Christ’s day in the eye of FAITH. He died awaiting the promise, the promised “seed” of Abraham.
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. –Gal. 3:16
So Christ was correct that Abraham had “seen his day and rejoiced.” Yet the Jews did NOT understand him, were unaware that the promised seed was Christ, and that Jesus was the Christ! Then Jesus made his declaration unto them,
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.” –John 8:58
The Trinitarians go very far to make an extreme issue out of the phrase “I Am” which is the actual transliteration of “YHWH” or “Yahweh”. Yet Jesus did NOT say, “Before Abraham was, I am that I am” which is what he would have had to say in order to call himself YAHWEH. Yet, this is how the Trinitarians want to twist the words of Jesus. Jesus never claimed that he was Yahweh as the Trinitarians claim. They go against the words of Christ by adding to his words what he never claimed! They ignore how Christ had just said that he does “not honor himself,” and that his Father honors him, and that Christ states he “knows” the one whom the Jews call God (not that he IS the one the Jews call God).
Christ’s response to the Jews in John 8 shows the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Trinitarians CLAIM. Christ makes it clear that he is NOT the God of the Jews, but that he KNOWS the God of the Jews! If he is ACTUALLY declaring himself to BE the God of the Jews, then his earlier statements that he does not HONOR himself and that he KNOWS the God of the Jews, were SELF CONTRADICTORY and were ALL OUTRIGHT LIES. Yet, even IF Jesus’ words WERE declaring, “I am the GREAT I am,” Trinitarians forget that Christ’s words were NOT HIS OWN, he only spoke what came directly from the Father!
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. –John 14:10
When Christ spoke, he did not speak of himself, he spoke of and directly FROM the FATHER.
The Jews did not understand this and neither do the Trinitarians who say that Christ is “God clothed in the flesh…”
The most irony of all this is that the Trinitarians USE the ERROR of the Jews to SUPPORT their Trinitarian doctrine. They ACTUALLY use the reaction of the Jews to this statement of Christ as some sort of evidence that they are RIGHT! They actually SIDE with the Jews on this issue – the Jews who SOUGHT to STONE CHRIST. They misunderstand Christ just like the Godless Jews did and say, “No wonder they tried to stone him!” They actually EMPATHIZE with those who tried to stone and ultimately KILL Jesus! They USE the REACTION of a group of men that were so devoid of God’s spirit that they sought to STONE the Christ! THESE ARE THE MEN they turn to for testimony of what they thought Christ meant when he said, “Before Abraham was, I am.”
I was once under the impression that the greatest deception the Devil ever concocted was the teaching of Total Depravity taught in Reformed Theology. I have now come to realize that the GREATEST DECEPTION ever INVENTED is the doctrine of the Trinity which is believed by just about EVERY DENOMINATION in what is called “Christianity.” This makes Jesus to be the “Almighty God himself” and why he could not be born depraved (which NO ONE is born a sinner!) and thus the reason why Jesus could not have an earthly father so as to avoid this contamination when the fact is that God said the virgin birth was for a SIGN – it was NOT to supposedly escape being born in sin. Jesus is not the Almighty God (Yahweh), and you won’t go to Hell for saying such a thing. It is the greatest deception ever invented by the Devil in the minds of people to keep you in bondage (fear tactic), by making you think Jesus is the God Almighty so that you can side with his way of thinking AGAINST the TRUE MESSIAH, who was miraculously born of the virgin Mary and was FULLY HUMAN, from the SEED OF DAVID. Humans give birth to humans, they don’t give birth to God Almighty! Mary gave birth to a son who was a human being just like you and me, and called “Son of Man,” and the “Son of God,” not God Himself! Adam was called the “son of God” (Luke 3:38), but this did not make Adam God. Adam was a true human being. The last Adam was also a true human being. Where Adam failed, the last Adam succeeded.
The Trinitarians are not following the true Jesus of the Bible proclaimed, but a FALSE JESUS (as I once did) by making the true Jesus the Messiah the “Almighty God,” and thus a DIFFERENT GOSPEL!
For if someone comes along and preaches another Jesus than the one we preached, or should you receive a different spirit from the one you received or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you are all too willing to listen. 2Co 11:4
Folks, PLEASE WAKE UP!
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is:
“Hear, Israel. The Lord OUR God is ONE Lord, Mar 12:29
And this is everlasting life, that they may know YOU, the ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent. -John 17:3
Thanks in part to Jeff Dean
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